Frederick KENNEDY

Birth: est 1860, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
FamilySearch ID: L8V7-QHL
Death: 1932, Hurstville, , New South Wales, Australia

Partnership with: May ROSS
Marriage: 1883, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Frederick KENNEDY Birth: 1885, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Ruby KENNEDY Birth: 1887, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Colin Leslie KENNEDY Birth: 1893
- Child: John Herbert Ross KENNEDY Birth: 1897, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Kenneth KENNEDY Birth: 1900, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Elsie May KENNEDY Birth: est 1901

Descendants of Frederick KENNEDY

1 Frederick KENNEDY
  =May ROSS  Marriage: 1883, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
      2 Frederick KENNEDY
      2 Ruby KENNEDY
      2 Colin Leslie KENNEDY
        =Elsie P. SHOEMARK  Marriage: 1919, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
      2 John Herbert Ross KENNEDY
      2 Kenneth KENNEDY
      2 Elsie May KENNEDY
        =Leslie Josiah SNARE  Marriage: 1934, Auburn, , New South Wales, Australia

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Frederick KENNEDY

Father: Frederick KENNEDY
Mother: May ROSS
Birth: 1885, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
FamilySearch ID: LXQD-7B6
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Ancestors of Frederick KENNEDY

        /-Frederick KENNEDY
Frederick KENNEDY
        |         /-David ROSS
        \-May ROSS
                  \-Grace MCLEOD

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Gerald Arthur KENNEDY

Father: Edward Clayton KENNEDY
Mother: Frances Hamilton GAYER
Death: 10 Feb 1932, Johannesburg, , Gauteng, South Africa

Ancestors of Gerald Arthur KENNEDY

                            /-James Raworth KENNEDY
                  /-John KENNEDY
                  |         \-Eleanor Lydia PEARCE
        /-Edward Clayton KENNEDY
        |         |         /-Patrick BYRNE
        |         \-Caroline BYRNE
        |                   \-Sarah BEST
Gerald Arthur KENNEDY
        \-Frances Hamilton GAYER

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Gertrude A. KENNEDY

Father: Thomas KENNEDY
Mother: Alice ANDERSON
Birth: 1910, Crookwell, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Ancestors of Gertrude A. KENNEDY

                  /-William KENNEDY
        /-Thomas KENNEDY
Gertrude A. KENNEDY
        |         /-Henry ANDERSON
        \-Alice ANDERSON
                  \-Mary BURKE

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Gilbert William KENNEDY

Father: Robert Henry KENNEDY
Mother: Mary Boscom HUME
Birth: 19 Oct 1872, Gunnedah, , New South Wales, Australia
FamilySearch ID: LDC9-5YN
Death: 15 Dec 1937, Western Australia, Australia

Ancestors of Gilbert William KENNEDY

                            /-James Raworth KENNEDY
                  /-John KENNEDY
                  |         \-Eleanor Lydia PEARCE
        /-Robert Henry KENNEDY
        |         |         /-Patrick BYRNE
        |         \-Caroline BYRNE
        |                   \-Sarah BEST
Gilbert William KENNEDY
        |                   /-Andrew Hamilton HUME
        |         /-Francis Rawdon HUME
        |         |         \-Elizabeth More KENNEDY
        \-Mary Boscom HUME
                  \-Emma MITCHELL

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Grace KENNEDY

Father: John KENNEDY
Mother: Caroline BYRNE
Birth: 7 Dec 1840, Appin, , New South Wales, Australia
Christening: 5 Sep 1841
FamilySearch ID: L6K2-ZKS
Death: , , New South Wales, Australia

Ancestors of Grace KENNEDY

                  /-James Raworth KENNEDY
        /-John KENNEDY
        |         \-Eleanor Lydia PEARCE
Grace KENNEDY
        |         /-Patrick BYRNE
        \-Caroline BYRNE
                  \-Sarah BEST

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Grace Penelope KENNEDY

Father: Willian KENNEDY
Mother: Ann Maria NEELY
Birth: 1881, Queanbeyan, , New South Wales, Australia
FamilySearch ID: L6R3-PVH
Death: 31 Aug 1951, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
Burial: Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia

Partnership with: David John COOPER
Marriage: 1910, Bungendore, , New South Wales, Australia

Ancestors of Grace Penelope KENNEDY

                            /-John KENNEDY
                  /-Robert KENNEDY
        /-Willian KENNEDY
        |         \-Ann BREARTON
Grace Penelope KENNEDY
        |         /-Robert Armstrong NEELY
        \-Ann Maria NEELY
                  |         /-Robert PRESTAGE
                  \-Lydia PRESTAGE

Descendants of Grace Penelope KENNEDY

1 Grace Penelope KENNEDY
  =David John COOPER  Marriage: 1910, Bungendore, , New South Wales, Australia

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Hannah KENNEDY

Father: Robert KENNEDY
Mother: Ann BREARTON
Birth: 28 Aug 1849, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
Christening: 31 Dec 1849, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Ancestors of Hannah KENNEDY

                  /-John KENNEDY
        /-Robert KENNEDY
Hannah KENNEDY
        \-Ann BREARTON

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Henry Bernard KENNEDY

Father: Thomas KENNEDY
Mother: Alice ANDERSON
Birth: 22 May 1915, Crookwell, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: 11 Sep 1997
Burial: Crookwell, , New South Wales, Australia

Ancestors of Henry Bernard KENNEDY

                  /-William KENNEDY
        /-Thomas KENNEDY
Henry Bernard KENNEDY
        |         /-Henry ANDERSON
        \-Alice ANDERSON
                  \-Mary BURKE

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Hilda Frances KENNEDY

Father: Robert Henry KENNEDY
Mother: Mary Boscom HUME
Birth: 16 May 1877, Gunnedah, , New South Wales, Australia
FamilySearch ID: LDC9-R7V
Death: 6 Apr 1942, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Partnership with: James Murray PITTENDRIGH
Marriage: 14 Jul 1906, Teddington, , Middlesex, England

Ancestors of Hilda Frances KENNEDY

                            /-James Raworth KENNEDY
                  /-John KENNEDY
                  |         \-Eleanor Lydia PEARCE
        /-Robert Henry KENNEDY
        |         |         /-Patrick BYRNE
        |         \-Caroline BYRNE
        |                   \-Sarah BEST
Hilda Frances KENNEDY
        |                   /-Andrew Hamilton HUME
        |         /-Francis Rawdon HUME
        |         |         \-Elizabeth More KENNEDY
        \-Mary Boscom HUME
                  \-Emma MITCHELL

Descendants of Hilda Frances KENNEDY

1 Hilda Frances KENNEDY
  =James Murray PITTENDRIGH  Marriage: 14 Jul 1906, Teddington, , Middlesex, England

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Hilda Mary KENNEDY

Father: John KENNEDY
Mother: Norah MCNAMARA
Birth: 1900, Braidwood, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: 1994, Nowra, , New South Wales, Australia

Partnership with: Reginald Alfred HOCKEY
Marriage: 1935, Nowra, , New South Wales, Australia

Ancestors of Hilda Mary KENNEDY

        /-John KENNEDY
Hilda Mary KENNEDY
        |         /-Michael MCNAMARA
        \-Norah MCNAMARA
                  \-Ellen HOLLANDS

Descendants of Hilda Mary KENNEDY

1 Hilda Mary KENNEDY
  =Reginald Alfred HOCKEY  Marriage: 1935, Nowra, , New South Wales, Australia

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James Edmond KENNEDY

Father: William KENNEDY
Mother: Sarah DARLISTON
Birth: 30 Apr 1887, Gullen, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Ancestors of James Edmond KENNEDY

        /-William KENNEDY
James Edmond KENNEDY
        \-Sarah DARLISTON

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James Raworth KENNEDY

Birth: 1754, Nettlestead, Kent, England
FamilySearch ID: LD7B-96N
Death: 19 Jul 1826, Windsor, , New South Wales, Australia

Partnership with: Eleanor Lydia PEARCE
Marriage: (Date and Place unknown)
- Child: John KENNEDY Birth: 1781, , , Kent, England

Descendants of James Raworth KENNEDY

1 James Raworth KENNEDY
  =Eleanor Lydia PEARCE
      2 John KENNEDY
        =Caroline BYRNE  Marriage: 30 Aug 1813, Parramatta, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Eliza Matilda KENNEDY
              =William Adams BRODRIBB  Marriage: 1844, Gunning, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 John KENNEDY
              =Emily Mary Ann MCDOUGALL  Marriage: 1867, Brighton, , Victoria, Australia
            3 Ellen KENNEDY
              =Thomas Broughton CARNE  Marriage: 19 May 1846, Gunning, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 James Thomas KENNEDY
            3 Caroline Amelia KENNEDY
              =John BROUGHAM  Marriage: 19 May 1846, Gunning, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Robert Henry KENNEDY
              =Mary Boscom HUME  Marriage: 30 Aug 1858, Yass, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Mary Eva KENNEDY
              =Patrick "Peter" Christopher BROUGHAM  Marriage: 12 Sep 1853, Albury, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 William KENNEDY
              =Annie Frances Elixzabeth GAYER  Marriage: 17 Feb 1859, Brighton, , Victoria, Australia
            3 Emma Jane KENNEDY
              =George Peter DESAILLY  Marriage: 13 May 1854, Albury, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Edward Clayton KENNEDY
              =Frances Hamilton GAYER  Marriage: 25 Aug 1863, Deniliquin, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Blanche KENNEDY
            3 Grace KENNEDY

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James Thomas KENNEDY

Father: John KENNEDY
Mother: Caroline BYRNE
Birth: 4 Sep 1821, Appin, , New South Wales, Australia
FamilySearch ID: LD7B-SM3
Death: 15 Feb 1881, Gunning, , New South Wales, Australia
Burial: Gunning, , New South Wales, Australia

Ancestors of James Thomas KENNEDY

                  /-James Raworth KENNEDY
        /-John KENNEDY
        |         \-Eleanor Lydia PEARCE
James Thomas KENNEDY
        |         /-Patrick BYRNE
        \-Caroline BYRNE
                  \-Sarah BEST

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Jane KENNEDY

Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Partnership with: Michael KEOUGH
Marriage: 20 Aug 1840, Richlands, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Ann KEOUGH Birth: 1843
- Child: James KEOUGH Birth: Abt 1845
- Child: Peter KEOGH Christening: 30 Apr 1852, , , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Jane KEOUGH Birth: 1854, , , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Michael KEOUGH Birth: Abt 1854

Descendants of Jane KENNEDY

1 Jane KENNEDY
  =Michael KEOUGH  Marriage: 20 Aug 1840, Richlands, , New South Wales, Australia
      2 Ann KEOUGH
      2 James KEOUGH
        =Ellen Mary LAWLER  Marriage: 1877, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Anne Jane KEOUGH
              =James ANDERSON  Marriage: 28 Jun 1911, Golspie, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 James KEOUGH
            3 Michael Francis KEOUGH
            3 John Dennis KEOUGH
              =Christina DRUETT  Marriage: 28 Nov 1931, Binda, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Catherine Teresa KEOUGH
            3 Patrick J. KEOUGH
            3 Ellen Mary KEOUGH
            3 Bridget Mary KEOUGH
      2 Peter KEOGH
      2 Jane KEOUGH
        =Joseph CHALKER  Marriage: 1872, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Charles Nicolls CHALKER
            3 Joseph CHALKER
              =Elizabeth PARKER  Marriage: 28 Nov 1899, Crookwell, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Michael Patrick CHALKER
              =Margaret Anne FITZGIBBON  Marriage: 10 Oct 1900, Crookwell, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Margaret Priscillia CHALKER
              =William Bond JAMES  Marriage: 18 Jan 1909, Taralga, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 John W. CHALKER
            3 Sarah Ann CHALKER
            3 Maria CHALKER
            3 Mary Ellen CHALKER
              =Phillip Robert Henry CHALKER  Marriage: 1930, Goulburn, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Eva G. CHALKER
      2 Michael KEOUGH

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Jane KENNEDY

Father: Robert KENNEDY
Mother: Ann BREARTON
Birth: 1846
Christening: 28 Jun 1846, Gunning, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Ancestors of Jane KENNEDY

                  /-John KENNEDY
        /-Robert KENNEDY
Jane KENNEDY
        \-Ann BREARTON

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Jessie Ann KENNEDY

Father: Robert Henry KENNEDY
Mother: Mary Boscom HUME
Birth: 17 Jul 1864, Deniliquin, New South Wales, Australia
FamilySearch ID: LDC9-5JG
Death: 1 Jul 1941, Armadale, Victoria, Australia

Ancestors of Jessie Ann KENNEDY

                            /-James Raworth KENNEDY
                  /-John KENNEDY
                  |         \-Eleanor Lydia PEARCE
        /-Robert Henry KENNEDY
        |         |         /-Patrick BYRNE
        |         \-Caroline BYRNE
        |                   \-Sarah BEST
Jessie Ann KENNEDY
        |                   /-Andrew Hamilton HUME
        |         /-Francis Rawdon HUME
        |         |         \-Elizabeth More KENNEDY
        \-Mary Boscom HUME
                  \-Emma MITCHELL

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John KENNEDY

Father: James Raworth KENNEDY
Mother: Eleanor Lydia PEARCE
Birth: 1781, , , Kent, England
FamilySearch ID: LKXS-3DV
Death: 19 Mar 1843, Gunning, , New South Wales, Australia

Partnership with: Caroline BYRNE
Marriage: 30 Aug 1813, Parramatta, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Eliza Matilda KENNEDY Birth: 19 Mar 1816, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: John KENNEDY Birth: 3 Nov 1817, Appin, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Ellen KENNEDY Birth: 15 Sep 1819, Parramatta, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: James Thomas KENNEDY Birth: 4 Sep 1821, Appin, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Caroline Amelia KENNEDY Birth: 1824, Appin, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Robert Henry KENNEDY Birth: 3 Sep 1826
- Child: Mary Eva KENNEDY Birth: 21 Jun 1828, Appin, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: William KENNEDY Birth: 9 May 1830
- Child: Emma Jane KENNEDY Birth: 21 Nov 1833, Campbelltown, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Edward Clayton KENNEDY Birth: 10 Sep 1836, Appin, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Blanche KENNEDY Birth: 9 May 1838, Yass, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Grace KENNEDY Birth: 7 Dec 1840, Appin, , New South Wales, Australia

Ancestors of John KENNEDY

        /-James Raworth KENNEDY
John KENNEDY
        \-Eleanor Lydia PEARCE

Descendants of John KENNEDY

1 John KENNEDY
  =Caroline BYRNE  Marriage: 30 Aug 1813, Parramatta, , New South Wales, Australia
      2 Eliza Matilda KENNEDY
        =William Adams BRODRIBB  Marriage: 1844, Gunning, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Ellen Keene BRODRIBB
            3 Alice Eugenie BRODRIBB
            3 William Kennedy BRODRIBB
              =Anna Montgomery LLOYD  Marriage: 13 Jan 1880, Brighton, , Sussex, England
            3 Kenrick Edward BRODRIBB
            3 Caroline Lavinia BRODRIBB
            3 Levie BRODRIBB
            3 Charles Herbert BRODRIBB
            3 Grace BRODRIBB
            3 Eliza Emma BRODRIBB
            3 Ernest George BRODRIBB
            3 Florence Mary BRODRIBB
      2 John KENNEDY
        =Emily Mary Ann MCDOUGALL  Marriage: 1867, Brighton, , Victoria, Australia
      2 Ellen KENNEDY
        =Thomas Broughton CARNE  Marriage: 19 May 1846, Gunning, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Thomas Broughton CARNE
            3 Ellen Blanche CARNE
            3 Thomas Broughton CARNE
            3 Marian Eliza CARNE
            3 Edith M. CARNE
            3 Robert CARNE
            3 Alice Emma CARNE
            3 Percy Harkness CARNE
            3 Ernest D. CARNE
            3 Herbert Kennedy CARNE
            3 Ethel CARNE
            3 Unnamed CARNE
      2 James Thomas KENNEDY
      2 Caroline Amelia KENNEDY
        =John BROUGHAM  Marriage: 19 May 1846, Gunning, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Henry Edward BROUGHAM
            3 Eleanor BROUGHAM
            3 John Waugh BROUGHAM
            3 Patrick William BROUGHAM
            3 Alice BROUGHAM
            3 Margaret BROUGHAM
            3 Emma BROUGHAM
            3 Ethel BROUGHAM
            3 James Kennedy BROUGHAM
      2 Robert Henry KENNEDY
        =Mary Boscom HUME  Marriage: 30 Aug 1858, Yass, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Emma Caroline KENNEDY
            3 Robert Henry KENNEDY
            3 Francis Hume KENNEDY
            3 Jessie Ann KENNEDY
            3 Edith Mary KENNEDY
            3 Effie Isabel KENNEDY
            3 Gilbert William KENNEDY
            3 Amy Ida KENNEDY
            3 Mabel Constance KENNEDY
            3 Hilda Frances KENNEDY
              =James Murray PITTENDRIGH  Marriage: 14 Jul 1906, Teddington, , Middlesex, England
            3 Mildred Helen KENNEDY
      2 Mary Eva KENNEDY
        =Patrick "Peter" Christopher BROUGHAM  Marriage: 12 Sep 1853, Albury, , New South Wales, Australia
      2 William KENNEDY
        =Annie Frances Elixzabeth GAYER  Marriage: 17 Feb 1859, Brighton, , Victoria, Australia
      2 Emma Jane KENNEDY
        =George Peter DESAILLY  Marriage: 13 May 1854, Albury, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 George DESAILLY
              =Laura Ida LUPTON  Marriage: 19 Apr 1888, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Ellen DESAILLY
            3 Maud Theodosea DESAILLY
            3 Beatrice DESAILLY
            3 Claude Leopold DESAILLY
            3 Arthur Louis DESAILLY
            3 Godfrey Baldwin DESAILLY
      2 Edward Clayton KENNEDY
        =Frances Hamilton GAYER  Marriage: 25 Aug 1863, Deniliquin, , New South Wales, Australia
            3 Gerald Arthur KENNEDY
            3 Muriel Ida Venry KENNEDY
      2 Blanche KENNEDY
      2 Grace KENNEDY

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John KENNEDY

Father: John KENNEDY
Mother: Caroline BYRNE
Birth: 3 Nov 1817, Appin, , New South Wales, Australia
Christening: 9 Dec 1817, Liverpool, , New South Wales, Australia
FamilySearch ID: MGY8-GYM
Death: 10 Dec 1874

Partnership with: Emily Mary Ann MCDOUGALL
Marriage: 1867, Brighton, , Victoria, Australia

Ancestors of John KENNEDY

                  /-James Raworth KENNEDY
        /-John KENNEDY
        |         \-Eleanor Lydia PEARCE
John KENNEDY
        |         /-Patrick BYRNE
        \-Caroline BYRNE
                  \-Sarah BEST

Descendants of John KENNEDY

1 John KENNEDY
  =Emily Mary Ann MCDOUGALL  Marriage: 1867, Brighton, , Victoria, Australia

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John KENNEDY

Birth: 30 May 1869
Death: 25 Sep 1936, Nowra, , New South Wales, Australia
Burial: Nerriga, , New South Wales, Australia

Partnership with: Norah MCNAMARA
Marriage: 1899, Braidwood, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Hilda Mary KENNEDY Birth: 1900, Braidwood, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: John James KENNEDY Birth: 1902, Captains Flat, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Mary Grace KENNEDY Birth: 1904, Braidwood, , New South Wales, Australia

Descendants of John KENNEDY

1 John KENNEDY
  =Norah MCNAMARA  Marriage: 1899, Braidwood, , New South Wales, Australia
      2 Hilda Mary KENNEDY
        =Reginald Alfred HOCKEY  Marriage: 1935, Nowra, , New South Wales, Australia
      2 John James KENNEDY
      2 Mary Grace KENNEDY
        =Ernest Charles SMITH  Marriage: 1926, Braidwood, , New South Wales, Australia

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