Anne GUTHRIE

Father: James GUTHRIE
Mother: Ann NEISH
Birth: Abt 1872, Rathven, , Banff, Scotland
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Ancestors of Anne GUTHRIE

        /-James GUTHRIE
Anne GUTHRIE
        \-Ann NEISH

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Daisey J. GUTHRIE

Father: John GUTHRIE
Mother: Betsy EMMERTON
Birth: 1895, Crookwell, Upper Lachlan Shire , New South Wales, Australia
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Ancestors of Daisey J. GUTHRIE

        /-John GUTHRIE
Daisey J. GUTHRIE
        |                   /-William EMMERTON
        |         /-Alfred EMMERTON
        |         |         \-Elizabeth FLOYD
        \-Betsy EMMERTON
                  |         /-Benjamin BODSWORTH
                  \-Mary BODSWORTH

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Edith V. GUTHRIE

Father: John GUTHRIE
Mother: Betsy EMMERTON
Birth: 1903, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Ancestors of Edith V. GUTHRIE

        /-John GUTHRIE
Edith V. GUTHRIE
        |                   /-William EMMERTON
        |         /-Alfred EMMERTON
        |         |         \-Elizabeth FLOYD
        \-Betsy EMMERTON
                  |         /-Benjamin BODSWORTH
                  \-Mary BODSWORTH

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Edith V. GUTHRIE

Birth: est 1905
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Partnership with: Volney William GROCOTT
Marriage: 1927, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia

Descendants of Edith V. GUTHRIE

1 Edith V. GUTHRIE
  =Volney William GROCOTT  Marriage: 1927, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia

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Gillian Louise GUTHRIE

Father: Living
Mother: Living
Birth: 3 Mar 1998, Duncan, , British Columbia, Canada
Death: 3 Mar 1998, Duncan, , British Columbia, Canada

Ancestors of Gillian Louise GUTHRIE

        /-Living
Gillian Louise GUTHRIE
        |         /-Living
        \-Living
                  |         /-Raeburn Walker ALLEN
                  \-Living
                            \-Doris Catherine Fanshawe WOOTTON

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Glen Terence GUTHRIE

Father: Thomas Ray GUTHRIE
Mother: Lillian PETTIT
Birth: Oct 1918
Death: 12 Feb 1925
Burial: Brayton, , NSW, Australia

Ancestors of Glen Terence GUTHRIE

                  /-John GUTHRIE
        /-Thomas Ray GUTHRIE
        |         |         /-Alfred EMMERTON
        |         \-Betsy EMMERTON
        |                   \-Mary BODSWORTH
Glen Terence GUTHRIE
        \-Lillian PETTIT

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Grizelle GUTHRIE

Birth: est 1755, Hamilton, , Lanark, Scotland
Also known as: Grizzelda GUTHRIE
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Partnership with: John KINLYSIDE
Marriage: Abt 1775, , , , Scotland
- Child: John KINLYSIDE Birth: 5 Nov 1777, Foulden, , Berwick, Scotland
- Child: John KINLYSIDE Birth: 1 Nov 1780, Foulden, , Berwick, Scotland
- Child: Mary KINLYSIDE Birth: 10 Jun 1783, Foulden, , Berwick, Scotland
- Child: Thomas KINLYSIDE Birth: 1794, , , Berwick, Scotland

Descendants of Grizelle GUTHRIE

1 Grizelle GUTHRIE
  =John KINLYSIDE  Marriage: Abt 1775, , , , Scotland
        2 John KINLYSIDE
        2 John KINLYSIDE
        2 Mary KINLYSIDE
        2 Thomas KINLYSIDE
          =Elizabeth LOCKIE  Marriage: 1816, Jedburgh, , Roxburgh, Scotland
                3 John KINLYSIDE
                  =Ann PHILLIPS  Marriage: 25 Dec 1855, Ashfield, , New South Wales, Australia
                        4 Thomas Michael Phillips KINLYSIDE
                          =Elizabeth Grace Fanny WILLIS  Marriage: 26 Apr 1882, Queanbeyan, , New South Wales, Australia
                        4 Mary E. KINLYSIDE
                          =Andrew EVANS  Marriage: 1882, Canterbury, , New South Wales, Australia
                        4 John Alexander Henry KINLYSIDE
                          =Maria "Nina" BUTLER  Marriage: 24 Sep 1881, Burwood, , New South Wales, Australia
                3 George KINLYSIDE
                  =Jane JONES  Marriage: 12 Jan 1849, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia
                        4 Thomas KINLYSIDE
                        4 Sarah Jane KINLYSIDE
                  =Priscilla WILLIAMS  Marriage: May 1876, Weetangerra, , Australian Capital Territory, Australia
                        4 George Kendall KINLYSIDE
                          =Ada Myra HOLLINGSWORTH  Marriage: 22 Sep 1909, Queanbeyan, , New South Wales, Australia
                3 Janet KINLYSIDE
                  =Alexander MCDONALD  Marriage: 7 Feb 1843, Queanbeyan, , New South Wales, Australia
                        4 Elizabeth MCDONALD
                        4 Alexander MCDONALD
                        4 Margaret MCDONALD
                        4 Alison MCDONALD
                        4 Catherine MCDONALD
                        4 Thomas A. MCDONALD
                          =Catherine MCDONALD  Marriage: 1895, Queanbeyan, , New South Wales, Australia
                3 Grace KINLYSIDE
                  =Ambrose AUSTEN  Marriage: 26 Aug 1853, Ashfield, , New South Wales, Australia
                        4 Elizabeth Janet AUSTEN
                          =Joseph MAYO  Marriage: 1874, Queanbeyan, , New South Wales, Australia
                        4 Mary AUSTEN
                3 Alice KINLYSIDE
                  =Thomas Charles WILLIS  Marriage: Aug 1850, Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia
                        4 Elizabeth Grace Fanny WILLIS
                          =Thomas Michael Phillips KINLYSIDE  Marriage: 26 Apr 1882, Queanbeyan, , New South Wales, Australia
                  =Thomas BRYANT  Marriage: 1864, Queanbeyan, , New South Wales, Australia
                  =James William COOK  Marriage: Nov 1877, Queanbeyan, , New South Wales, Australia
                3 James KINLYSIDE
                3 Mary KINLYSIDE
                  =George Shakespeare JOHNS  Marriage: 19 Feb 1879, Queanbeyan, , New South Wales, Australia
                3 Alexander KINLYSIDE
                3 Thomas KINLYSIDE

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Gwelda Cloris GUTHRIE

Father: Thomas Ray GUTHRIE
Mother: Lillian PETTIT
Birth: 15 Oct 1927
Death: 17 Feb 2004
Burial: Brayton, , NSW, Australia

Partnership with: Albert George BILLINGHAM
Marriage: 1948, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Living
- Child: Living

Ancestors of Gwelda Cloris GUTHRIE

                  /-John GUTHRIE
        /-Thomas Ray GUTHRIE
        |         |         /-Alfred EMMERTON
        |         \-Betsy EMMERTON
        |                   \-Mary BODSWORTH
Gwelda Cloris GUTHRIE
        \-Lillian PETTIT

Descendants of Gwelda Cloris GUTHRIE

1 Gwelda Cloris GUTHRIE
  =Albert George BILLINGHAM  Marriage: 1948, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
        2 Living
        2 Living

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Helen GUTHRIE

Father: James GUTHRIE
Mother: Ann NEISH
Birth: 9 Feb 1869, Enzie, , Banff, Scotland
FamilySearch ID: 9MP5-LKZ
Death: 12 Oct 1944, Perth, , Western Australia, Australia

Partnership with: George NEWLANDS
Marriage: 9 Jan 1892, Hamilton, , Lanark, Scotland
- Child: Ann NEWLANDS Birth: 4 Dec 1891, , Enzie, Scotland, Great Britain
- Child: Jane NEWLANDS Birth: 1893, , , , Scotland
- Child: George NEWLANDS Birth: 29 Jan 1898
- Child: Elizabeth NEWLANDS Birth: 9 Jan 1900, , , , Scotland
- Child: Helen NEWLANDS Birth: 23 Oct 1904
- Child: Williamina Neish NEWLANDS Birth: 26 Jul 1908, Turriff, , Aberdeen, Scotland

Ancestors of Helen GUTHRIE

        /-James GUTHRIE
Helen GUTHRIE
        \-Ann NEISH

Descendants of Helen GUTHRIE

1 Helen GUTHRIE
  =George NEWLANDS  Marriage: 9 Jan 1892, Hamilton, , Lanark, Scotland
        2 Ann NEWLANDS
          =Joseph BROWN
        2 Jane NEWLANDS
          =Robert GRAY  Marriage: 16 Feb 1916, Aberdeen, , Aberdeen, Scotland
                3 Robert GRAY
                3 Mary GRAY
                3 Christie GRAY
                3 Nellie GRAY
                3 John GRAY
                3 George GRAY
                3 Annie GRAY
                3 Alexander GRAY
                3 Duncan GRAY
        2 George NEWLANDS
          =Mary ROSS
                3 Living
                  =Living
                        4 Living
                        4 Living
                        4 Living
                3 Living
                  =Living
                        4 Living
                        4 Living
                  =Living
                        4 Living
                        4 Living
        2 Elizabeth NEWLANDS
          =Frank TUCK
        2 Helen NEWLANDS
        2 Williamina Neish NEWLANDS

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James GUTHRIE

Birth: Abt 1826, Bellie, Moray, Scotland
Occupation: Crofter and General Labourer, 1881
Address: Muir of Clochan, 1881, Rathven, , Banff, Scotland
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Partnership with: Ann NEISH
Marriage: (Date and Place unknown)
- Child: Helen GUTHRIE Birth: 9 Feb 1869, Enzie, , Banff, Scotland
- Child: Anne GUTHRIE Birth: Abt 1872, Rathven, , Banff, Scotland
- Child: Andrew GUTHRIE Birth: Abt 1878, Rathven, , Banff, Scotland

Descendants of James GUTHRIE

1 James GUTHRIE
  =Ann NEISH
        2 Helen GUTHRIE
          =George NEWLANDS  Marriage: 9 Jan 1892, Hamilton, , Lanark, Scotland
                3 Ann NEWLANDS
                  =Joseph BROWN
                3 Jane NEWLANDS
                  =Robert GRAY  Marriage: 16 Feb 1916, Aberdeen, , Aberdeen, Scotland
                        4 Robert GRAY
                        4 Mary GRAY
                        4 Christie GRAY
                        4 Nellie GRAY
                        4 John GRAY
                        4 George GRAY
                        4 Annie GRAY
                        4 Alexander GRAY
                        4 Duncan GRAY
                3 George NEWLANDS
                  =Mary ROSS
                        4 Living
                          =Living
                        4 Living
                          =Living
                          =Living
                3 Elizabeth NEWLANDS
                  =Frank TUCK
                3 Helen NEWLANDS
                3 Williamina Neish NEWLANDS
        2 Anne GUTHRIE
        2 Andrew GUTHRIE

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John GUTHRIE

Birth: est 1860
Death: 22 Jan 1937, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
Burial: Brayton, , NSW, Australia

Partnership with: Betsy EMMERTON
Marriage: 1886, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Thomas Ray GUTHRIE Birth: 1886, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Mabel V. GUTHRIE Birth: 1891, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
- Child: William J. GUTHRIE Birth: 1893, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Daisey J. GUTHRIE Birth: 1895, Crookwell, Upper Lachlan Shire , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Selina "Lena" Mary Patricia GUTHRIE Birth: 1897, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
- Child: John GUTHRIE Birth: 1899, Crookwell, Upper Lachlan Shire , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Edith V. GUTHRIE Birth: 1903, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia

Descendants of John GUTHRIE

1 John GUTHRIE
  =Betsy EMMERTON  Marriage: 1886, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
        2 Thomas Ray GUTHRIE
          =Lillian PETTIT  Marriage: 1917, Marrickville, , New South Wales, Australia
                3 Glen Terence GUTHRIE
                3 Gwelda Cloris GUTHRIE
                  =Albert George BILLINGHAM  Marriage: 1948, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
                        4 Living
                        4 Living
        2 Mabel V. GUTHRIE
          =William O'BRIEN  Marriage: 1914, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
                3 Douglas J. O'BRIEN
                3 Daphne Beryl O'BRIEN
                  =Lawrence RYAN  Marriage: 14 Aug 1937, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
                        4 Wallace RYAN
                        4 Ian RYAN
                        4 Living
                          =Living
                        4 Living
                        4 Living
                3 Warwick V. O'BRIEN
                3 Betty Edith O'BRIEN
                  =Archibald Bruce CALDWELL  Marriage: 20 Jan 1951, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
        2 William J. GUTHRIE
        2 Daisey J. GUTHRIE
        2 Selina "Lena" Mary Patricia GUTHRIE
          =Leopold Emanuel KNIGHT  Marriage: 1921, Petersham, , NSW, Australia
        2 John GUTHRIE
        2 Edith V. GUTHRIE

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John GUTHRIE

Father: John GUTHRIE
Mother: Betsy EMMERTON
Birth: 1899, Crookwell, Upper Lachlan Shire , New South Wales, Australia
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Ancestors of John GUTHRIE

        /-John GUTHRIE
John GUTHRIE
        |                   /-William EMMERTON
        |         /-Alfred EMMERTON
        |         |         \-Elizabeth FLOYD
        \-Betsy EMMERTON
                  |         /-Benjamin BODSWORTH
                  \-Mary BODSWORTH

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Lindsay Robert GUTHRIE

Father: Stuart GUTHRIE
Birth: 23 Jun 1923, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
Occupation: Labourer, 1949
Address: 18 Buffalo City, 1949, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
Death: 26 Jan 2016, Coffs Harbour, , New South Wales, Australia

Partnership with: Living

Ancestors of Lindsay Robert GUTHRIE

        /-Stuart GUTHRIE
Lindsay Robert GUTHRIE

Descendants of Lindsay Robert GUTHRIE

1 Lindsay Robert GUTHRIE
  =Living

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Mabel V. GUTHRIE

Father: John GUTHRIE
Mother: Betsy EMMERTON
Birth: 1891, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Partnership with: William O'BRIEN
Marriage: 1914, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Douglas J. O'BRIEN Birth: 1915, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Daphne Beryl O'BRIEN Birth: 1918, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Warwick V. O'BRIEN Birth: 1921, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Betty Edith O'BRIEN Birth: est 1924

Ancestors of Mabel V. GUTHRIE

        /-John GUTHRIE
Mabel V. GUTHRIE
        |                   /-William EMMERTON
        |         /-Alfred EMMERTON
        |         |         \-Elizabeth FLOYD
        \-Betsy EMMERTON
                  |         /-Benjamin BODSWORTH
                  \-Mary BODSWORTH

Descendants of Mabel V. GUTHRIE

1 Mabel V. GUTHRIE
  =William O'BRIEN  Marriage: 1914, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
        2 Douglas J. O'BRIEN
        2 Daphne Beryl O'BRIEN
          =Lawrence RYAN  Marriage: 14 Aug 1937, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
                3 Wallace RYAN
                3 Ian RYAN
                3 Living
                  =Living
                3 Living
                3 Living
        2 Warwick V. O'BRIEN
        2 Betty Edith O'BRIEN
          =Archibald Bruce CALDWELL  Marriage: 20 Jan 1951, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia

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Selina "Lena" Mary Patricia GUTHRIE

Father: John GUTHRIE
Mother: Betsy EMMERTON
Birth: 1897, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
Death: 19 Jul 1985, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia

Partnership with: Leopold Emanuel KNIGHT
Marriage: 1921, Petersham, , NSW, Australia

Ancestors of Selina "Lena" Mary Patricia GUTHRIE

        /-John GUTHRIE
Selina "Lena" Mary Patricia GUTHRIE
        |                   /-William EMMERTON
        |         /-Alfred EMMERTON
        |         |         \-Elizabeth FLOYD
        \-Betsy EMMERTON
                  |         /-Benjamin BODSWORTH
                  \-Mary BODSWORTH

Descendants of Selina "Lena" Mary Patricia GUTHRIE

1 Selina "Lena" Mary Patricia GUTHRIE
  =Leopold Emanuel KNIGHT  Marriage: 1921, Petersham, , NSW, Australia

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Selina J. GUTHRIE

Father: Thomas GUTHRIE
Birth: 1864, Berrima, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Partnership with: Alexander ROSS
Marriage: 1884, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Alexander Stanley ROSS Birth: 1887, Taralga, , New South Wales, Australia

Ancestors of Selina J. GUTHRIE

        /-Thomas GUTHRIE
Selina J. GUTHRIE

Descendants of Selina J. GUTHRIE

1 Selina J. GUTHRIE
  =Alexander ROSS  Marriage: 1884, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
        2 Alexander Stanley ROSS
          =Henrietta M. WALL  Marriage: 1911, Marrickville, , New South Wales, Australia
                3 Erella J. ROSS
                3 Bernice ROSS
                3 Moira J. ROSS

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Stuart GUTHRIE

Birth: 1886, Beechworth, , Victoria, Australia
Death: 11 Jul 1966, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia

Partnership with: (Unknown)
- Child: Lindsay Robert GUTHRIE Birth: 23 Jun 1923, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia

Descendants of Stuart GUTHRIE

1 Stuart GUTHRIE
  =(Unknown)
        2 Lindsay Robert GUTHRIE
          =Living

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Thomas GUTHRIE

Birth: est 1830
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Partnership with: (Unknown)
- Child: Selina J. GUTHRIE Birth: 1864, Berrima, , New South Wales, Australia

Descendants of Thomas GUTHRIE

1 Thomas GUTHRIE
  =(Unknown)
        2 Selina J. GUTHRIE
          =Alexander ROSS  Marriage: 1884, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
                3 Alexander Stanley ROSS
                  =Henrietta M. WALL  Marriage: 1911, Marrickville, , New South Wales, Australia
                        4 Erella J. ROSS
                        4 Bernice ROSS
                        4 Moira J. ROSS

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Thomas Ray GUTHRIE

Father: John GUTHRIE
Mother: Betsy EMMERTON
Birth: 1886, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
Death: 1965, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
Burial: Brayton, , NSW, Australia

Partnership with: Lillian PETTIT
Marriage: 1917, Marrickville, , New South Wales, Australia
- Child: Glen Terence GUTHRIE Birth: Oct 1918
- Child: Gwelda Cloris GUTHRIE Birth: 15 Oct 1927

Ancestors of Thomas Ray GUTHRIE

        /-John GUTHRIE
Thomas Ray GUTHRIE
        |                   /-William EMMERTON
        |         /-Alfred EMMERTON
        |         |         \-Elizabeth FLOYD
        \-Betsy EMMERTON
                  |         /-Benjamin BODSWORTH
                  \-Mary BODSWORTH

Descendants of Thomas Ray GUTHRIE

1 Thomas Ray GUTHRIE
  =Lillian PETTIT  Marriage: 1917, Marrickville, , New South Wales, Australia
        2 Glen Terence GUTHRIE
        2 Gwelda Cloris GUTHRIE
          =Albert George BILLINGHAM  Marriage: 1948, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
                3 Living
                3 Living

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William J. GUTHRIE

Father: John GUTHRIE
Mother: Betsy EMMERTON
Birth: 1893, Goulburn, Mulwaree, New South Wales, Australia
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Ancestors of William J. GUTHRIE

        /-John GUTHRIE
William J. GUTHRIE
        |                   /-William EMMERTON
        |         /-Alfred EMMERTON
        |         |         \-Elizabeth FLOYD
        \-Betsy EMMERTON
                  |         /-Benjamin BODSWORTH
                  \-Mary BODSWORTH

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